December 03, 2004
Gay Marriage Arguments
Just because a lot of people don't get it.
You know that whole thing about the way to oppose the arguments against gay marriage was to talk about "equal rights", and "individual equality" and all of that jazz?
That was because of the election. That's all. It was a cynical gauging of the political winds. How much oxygen folks believed there was for the gay rights side.
It's bullshit. It's not about equal rights. It's not about individual equality. That's just waving hands in the air and trying to make it sound palatable. It's just "framing", which people have evidently decided means the best way to not talk about something.
And another thing. This whole nature versus nurture thing? Where the Republicans say that gays make a choice to be gay, and Democrats say that it's genetics, and not their choice?
That's crap too. It's a repugnant argument to have. Come on now, everyone, let's have a national discussion about whether it's they're fault that they're gay. Same thing with that whole "lifestyle" versus "orientation" semantic bullshit. It's pathetic.
It's not election season anymore, so can we get back to the discussion that we should be having about gays?
What's the truth? What's the point that every single Democrat on the airwaves should be making right now, over and over again - as early as possible so it is embedded enough in the national consciousness in time for the next election?
How about, There is nothing wrong with homosexuality.
Come on, just think about some random Democrat going up against Jerry Falwell on Hardball. "You know Chris, I just don't think there's anything wrong with homosexual behavior. There's nothing wrong with it." What is Jerry going to say that isn't going to make himself look like a bigot next to that? He'll try, but it won't go so well if you just oppose it straight up.
That's the whole thing about gay marriage. The GOP believes that everyone has the capability of being gay, but that it's a perversion, and that there are people that make the choice to control their perversion, and there are immoral people that don't make the choice to control their perversion. They see gay marriage as the ultimate societal stamp of approval for perversion. So they have to draw the line there.
So you call them out on it. Don't just say there's nothing wrong with homosexuality. Say there's nothing wrong with homosexual behavior. With the homosexual orientation. With the homosexual lifestyle. Whatever.
It's not a threat to national security. It's not a threat to economic security. It doesn't contribute to poverty.
If they want to get married, let 'em. Who cares?
And just watch the bigots start to argue their feelings honestly. Then it'll be easy to mock them mercilessly, for the backwards, hateful, distasteful, repugnant trolls that they are.
I can't agree with you more. I think there are people who choose to be gay and those who were born with that predilection. In either case, there's nothing wrong with it. The whole issue about gays being allowed to marry is about being treated equally under the eyes of the law, not God. And, YES, there is a difference.
Lately, I've been hearing the argument about how "this country was founded by Christians". Well, so what? The Native Americans were technically here first, so technically "this country" is theirs! So, maybe we should let them decide. I'm sure that after all that they've been through and all that they are up against now, they couldn't care less who wants to marry who. And considering all that we've gone through since 9/11, and all that we're up against now with the war on terrorism, we shouldn't give a sh** either.
Posted by: sjp at December 3, 2004 10:24 PM