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look all the death penalty is doind is violating the eigth ammendment! if you did't know "crruel and unnusual punishment"

This is a cool topic

why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing is wrong?

i have to write a papper on death penalty and i think the death penalty can go either way, some people should get the death penalty others souldn't - they could be proven inniocent -

there have been at least 113 reported cases of innocent people sentenced to the death penalty in the US.

dude im learning this s tuff too.. and i found that the death penaltys facts and statistics went up before DNa testing and many people wer eproven innocent after DNa testing started being used
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The death penalty is more of a problem then it is a solution, countrys or states that do not have the death penalty as an option, there murder rates are about 20 to 30 percent lower then in countrys or states the do use the death penalty. So in a way haveing the dealth penalty is makeing them use it because they have more muders do deal with. Also i dont agree with the fact that the death penalty is a deterinent to commit murder if someone is thinking about killing anyone they are probley thinking that they are not going to be caught. They may also belive if they are found out that they where smart enought not to leave evidance that can prove that they where there or at least not enough evidance to be sentanced to death. So again i do not belive that it has a facter if anyone commits murder or not.

i do not agree wit the death penalty because they only give it to certain people.so the question is who do you give the death penalty to?

I have to do a 3-minute speech on why it is bad for english, and i think I could go on for hours because it is so wrong to kill some one! Plus, it takes more out of taxes to kill people then to have them in jail for life.
im 15 and young and never want to die in jail!!!

thanx for ur help

you know that 13,000 people have been given the death penalty in the U.S.A (I hate to think how many were inocent)

I've been learning about the death penalty too and I'm ambivalent. I may be 14 butI both agree with it and I also disagree with it, I guess it's hard for me to decide because there are mnay innocent people who have been executed and that's not fair because they lost their life for something they never did. Yet, there are other very dangerous criminals who have commited so many bad crimes and they are still out there, walking in the streets like anyone else. it' hard for me to decide.

I guess you can compare an innocent man put to death with a guilty man walking free and if it's a fair tradeoff. It's been said that it's better for ten guilty men to walk free than for one innocent man to be put to death - I agree with that. It's a figure of speech, it doesn't literally mean to do a study and approach a level of 1/10th. You and I as individuals have control over whether we commit a crime, and that means that you and I should have control over whether we are put to death. To live in a world where it's possible for you or I to be legally put to death for doing absolutely nothing wrong is inexcusable, however. And so that is why it is better to not find someone guilty until it's proven - this policy that may lead to less criminals being put to death is exactly what protects you and I.

i think that the death penalty is a disgraceful addition to this malicious society in which we inhabit. my name is mavis and the other day someone tried to put me on an electric chair and i said no. because that's not the way in which i should be punished for stealing a cola bottle penny sweet from woolworths. thank you for your time and thoughtful consideration.

NO ELECTRIC CHAIR FOR COLA BOTTLE STEALING
THIS WILL LEAVE US UNAWARE AND THE LITTLE CHILDREN SQUEALING

THANK YOU VERY MUCH
AU REVOIR
ARRIVE DECHE

DONT KILL THE KILLERS LET THEM ROT IN JAIL IF INNOCENT AND IF THERE IS DNA BROUGHT INTO EVIDENCE MAYBE THE INNOCENT MAN/WOMEN CAN ENJOY THE LAST COUPLE YEARS OF HER LIFE WITH $500,000

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I agree, they should only assign the death penalty if they can prove that with out a dought that particular person or persons is the actual culpret, after a well argued case in court, with exclusive evidance.

The death penalty is fine. There is nothing wrong with it. It is justice. Oh yeah. By the way. You kids can't spell. Doubt is spelt doubt, not "dought". I'm fifteen and i know this. Retards

i agree with the death penalty you kill someone you should be killed to. all you other people that dont agree with the death penalty need to open your eyes and look at our world,all the people that kill other people,besides war and self defence, need to be KILLED.

I am a mother if five and I am 28 years old. I have never believed int the death penalty. Only GOD can judge someone. IF you look at the statistic, you will see the death penalty does nothing to prevent crime. It does not even put fear into those who committ these crime. They are still doing it. The reports show that crime has gone up since the death penalty. Nothing is changing, so why waste presious money to kill someone. How are we to teach our kids and our youth that this type of suff is a crime and is not how to handle things....when our goverment is doing the same stuff....killing is a crime not matter who is doing it. There has been so many mistakes over the years with who is guilty. How can we take a chance and kill someone when you are not sure all the way? I dont think this is JUSTICE! The victims of familys think this might be closure foe them....but it is not. Wait a few years down the road....then ask if killing the person brought them any closure? Do they really feel any better? I think not. The only thing that can heal a person who is greiving the loss of a loved one id time. But it will never go away...never. NOt even if the person responsible is put to death.

i agree with the death penalty but we should only use it when we get some people who know what their doing to decide who gets killed. we need to get rid of those cops and the other people who just say, well he looks guilty we better kill him.

i believe in the death penelty! just like james said "you kill someone you need to be killed"
i am 14 years old and i have to right a 3 page essay! thanx for the help!

I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I am doing a capital punishment essay for school in year 11, and I have read all the comments above. I cannot understand how the government are trying to rid killings taking place, whence they are committing killings themselves. It is hypocritical. It really is. They are being dishonest with themselves and their actions. The death penalty achieves nothing but pure hatred and revenge, it does not bring the person killed back. It is a barabric unhumane act.

In answer to Rachel about only god can judge someone well yes he can but it even says in the bible an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth an arm for an arm and a life for a life. In stats the murder rates HAVE gone down since the death penalty came into being.Murder is not wrong if it is in defense of yourself or another human being. People say give murderes LIFE in prision instead of the Penalty well here is true stats from the United States government prisons, in 2004 97 people have been sentenced to life in Prision they got a shorter time and were realesed 94 of these people have killed again that is ridicuous basiclly people want to risk innocent peoples lives to give murderers a second chance i say if someone commits the worst sin of all i say they dont deserve a second chance if it means other lives being lost to give them this chance. You should never trust a murder becasue they like to kill and that is why they do it. America kills to protect its people each and every one of YOU.

I just can't believe that stat. 97 released all time as of 2004? That's really low. 97 released that year, 94 of which killed again that very same year? That can't be right. Where's the stat?

Wow, you guys really need to learn how to spell. But anyways, the death penalty is a cruel and unusual form of punishment for crimes that can be solved in a lest childish manner. Would it be true that two wrongs actually don’t make a right? If so, then why would we murder those who have killed other people, wouldn’t that classify as two wrongs, meaning that it in fact would not make anything right?

Why would we, a country that has made a law against killing, kill those who have commited serious crimes? The death penalty is a vialation to the eighth amendment and needs to be made illegal in the United States.

And, in spite of it all, Charles Manson is still alive.

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capital pun rules mannnnnnnn
cool subject to learn
i learnt that it kills bad peeps
all out dudes
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dnt kill x

well thank you lolly, now i do believe that i am at least 10 brain cells stupider after having read that. But capital punishment, also known as the death penalty for those who do not know, is just legalized murder.

I do not see how soiling the ground with the blood of a convict can make anyone feel that the have achieved anything other than another death. It is no less a crime for the government to kill its own people that it is for people to kill eachother.

I mean, does the death of a convict avenge the death of the victim? It certainly does not bring the victim back, nor does it relinquish the pains and sufferings of the convict.

Cruel and unusual? I don't think that something that has taken place many many times throughout the ages and in many many societies is unusual. Cruel? Depends on what method is used. Lethal injection doesn't seem cruel at all to me.

I can't imagine what it must be like to have a love one murdered. Personally I would be hard put not to seek out revenge with my own two hands. But what if I got the wrong person? Isn't that why we have a right to a trial by our peers?

What if the family members of the murdered one asked the judge not to give the death penalty. Should he? If you say no then it seems to me that the death penalty is revenge and doesn't serve a useful purpose.

Is the death penalty a deterrant? Well no it isn't an absolute deterant. But neither are jail sentences for bank robbers, but no one uses that as an excuse to stop sending those felons to jail. Once again the death penalty appears to be vengance rather than justice.

Have some people earned the death penalty? absolutly.

Have some innocent people been put to death? Most likely. I just dont think as a civilized society we should trade off any innocent persons life for revenge. If you have concerns about murders being set free then there is life without parole.

Eric

I am also typing a paper on the death penalty and find that it is wrong. It costs tax payers so much more money and plus the 113 people that were innocent and exicuted. If we have been wrong before than we are probably going to be wrong again.
p.s.
there quite a few grammer and spelling errors in above statements

i feel the death penalty is right because people have rights and dosen't make yoju right to murder innocent people with civil rights.so there for i feel in my own way that it is right for the death penalty.

i just did a wicked hard paper for my comp class in yale, was due the next day. i'm done with my paper now, that was like three days ago but i came across this cite today and i wished i had of found this when i was doing my paper on a recent d.p. case file.

Im also writng a 5 page essay on the death penalty. and i believe that the d.p. is a good way of a punishment. Just think if someone killed your mother,sister,brother or any close family or friend of yours. Wouldn't you want to see them die as well?......I would.

Im only 13 and i even think the death penalty is wrong. its a total violation of the 8th amendment. If an innocent person gets killed, they say, "OOPS SORRY ABOUT THAT". People just lost a loved one or little kids just lost their mom or dad. Its just wrong.

This is in response to Krysta way back on February 15. It is true it says in the Old Testament an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. However, for those who believe in Jesus and his teachings, he laid down new covenants during his time here on earth. Saying to forgive and love all. Love your enemies. Turn the other cheek. Now this does not mean to let someone kill you, or to forgive one that does, but killing justifies nothing. Ghandi said, "An eye for an eye makes everyone blind." Should the state be held responsible for the lives they take under the death penalty? Should the state be put to death?

Wow their are stupid people out there. Im 18 and debating wether we should abolish the death penalty. For one if we we just had life in prison think of how much money we as tax payer whould have to shell out. Think of the long run if we have to support these criminals for the rest of their life lets say they live 15 years in prison. Thats 15 years of medical and dental benefits we have to pay. If we get rid of the death penalty then the inmates should not be getting cable and CONGICAL VISITS. thanks of your opinion.

Dave, I think you're one of the stupid ones. Try researching updated information before making statements. Contrary to popular beliefs, the price of life in prison and the Death Penalty are almost IDENTICAL! Therefore, I hope this argument becomes invalid for all. Killing is killing. There is no justifiable reason that a well organized government should have the right to take a life of one of its citizens.

What if you had a brother, or sister that was convicted...And you think they are falsly accused, and they just announced that he/she will be dead by the next day, I don't think you would like the punnishment that much anymore...I'd rather they be in jail then die on a frying chair! -Bobby

Read the commandments. God said thy shall not kill, he is the judger not us...and life in prison is just as bad as getting the dealth penalty..

Its amazing how people don't take into context the real issue which is when did everyone become so concerned about criminal rights over innocent victim rights. Yeah, the death penalty is bad, but thats why people like you and I (hopefully) dont go out murdering, people. Also has anyone heard of an innocent person being murdered by the death penalty? no, because it hasn't happened. People think that because DNA has gotten some people off of death row that they are innocent. thats wrong, The people were released because they weren't proven guilty WITHOUT A REASON OF DOUBT, NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE FULLY INNOCENT. The death row process is a very long process that is done carefully by the court system. so if you dont have faith in the US courts then maybe you should move out of the country. Imagine if your baby sister was kidnapped and tourtured. Your first instinct as a human being should be to get payback. Of course it isn't justifiable to murder to teach murder is bad. But the government is not murdering people. Look in the dictionary for the definition murder, and you will understand. By far the death penalty deters crime. By a criminal killing an innocent victim they no that they forfeit their life, and if they dont know someone better tell them!!

Sara, who has the right to decide who's deserves to live or not? The truth is that we can't find who's innocent or who's really guilty even with DNA testing unless we have direct evidence/proof of guilt (1st hand witness, recordings, etc), so untill that time how can we judge another to death? We do not have the right to violate another human's rights.
Now those of you who are concerned about taxes, wouldn't you feel just a little cheated if you knew you were going to be executed just because the people you share your country with just didn't want to pay a little more in tax?
firstdubsvten, quoting Ghandi's "eye for an eye makes everyone blind" was probably the best point anyone has made in this discussion. What's the use in being suspicious of everyone? It's a waste of time and life and will just leave you stressed.
Judge not, for you are not one to judge or be judged. Grudges are a childish waste of time.

St. Vincent

Hey there!
I just wanted to let you all know that there is a difference between an execution and a murder. People who murder are killing INNOCENT people. When the government executes a criminal, they are justly killing someone who deserves to die.
Therefore, you should not say that we are trying to stop "killing by killing". It's not the same thing. There is a huge difference.
Thanks for your time.

but it falls under the same principle. Killing someone for reason or not is murder, saying that the government is any different is saying that the people who decide these things are a higher level of person than you.

St. Vincent

I'm doing a debate on capital punishment and I found some very interesting things about it. 1) it DOES act as a deterrent. In 2003 the Department of Economics at Emory University developed a hypothesis for the deterrence effect of capital punishment. They found that eighteen lives are saved from just one execution. ALSO one guy, Luis Vera killed Rosa Velez. He admitted to killing her, claiming, “Yah, I shot her, and I knew I wouldn’t go to the chair.” 2) If a criminal truely believes they are innocent they can file clemency. 3) Murderers in jail can still kill other inmates and police offers within the jail. Just because they are in prison doesn't mean they still can't commit a crime. ALSO it is possible for criminals to escape from jail, thus allowing them to kill more innocent people. 4) execution is even in the Bible. “He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death.” -Exodus 21:12, "And he who strikes his father or his mother shall surely be put to death." -Exodus 21:16, "If anyone takes the life of a human being, he must be put to death.”-Leviticus 24:17 5) the word murder cannot be used to describe executions since the death penalty is the law 6)The 575 killers who were executed between 1998 and 2004 had murdered at least 1199 people. That is an average of 2.09 victims per executed killer. (Thats not good) 7) There has NEVER been ONE recorded case of an innocent person being put to death by the death penalty.

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